Class 8 Mathematics · Chapter 3

3. A Story of Numbers

Solutions to all Figure it Out and in-text questions. CBSE Class 8 Mathematics, NCERT Ganita Prakash Part 1.

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3.1 Reema’s Curiosity — The Mechanism of Counting

1How will you use sticks to answer Q2 (Do we have fewer cows than our neighbour?) and Q3 (How many more cows do we need?)

Q2: Keep one stick for each of our cows and ask the neighbour to do the same. Now pair one of our sticks with one of the neighbour’s sticks again and again. The one whose sticks are left over has more cows.

Q3: The sticks left over with the neighbour show how many more cows we need.

2How many numbers can you represent in this way using the sounds of the letters of your language?

In English we can represent only 26 numbers (a to z).

In Marathi or Hindi (Devanagari) there are about 48 letters (vowels and consonants). So we can represent about 48 numbers.

3Do you see a way of extending the Roman method (Table 1) to represent bigger numbers? How?

Yes. We keep making groups and give new symbols to bigger groups. For example, L for 50, C for 100, D for 500 and M for 1000.

Then 21 = XXI, 30 = XXX, 40 = XL, 50 = L, and so on.

Figure it Out (Page 54)

1Using the stick number system, give a method for adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing two collections of sticks.
  • Addition: Put both collections together. The new collection is the sum.
  • Subtraction: Pair each stick of the smaller collection with a stick of the bigger one and remove the pairs. The sticks left show the difference.
  • Multiplication: For every stick in the second collection, place one full copy of the first collection. Put all of them together.
  • Division: Make groups from the first collection, each group having as many sticks as the second collection. The number of groups is the quotient. The sticks left over are the remainder.
2One way of extending Method 2 is by using strings with more than one letter, like ‘aa’ for 27. How can you extend this system to represent all the numbers?

After z (26), we can use two-letter strings in order: aa (27), ab (28), …, az (52), ba (53), …, zz.

After zz, we use three-letter strings: aaa, aab, and so on. In this way every number gets a name.

3Try making your own number system.

Sample: Let ● = 1 and ▲ = 3 (a group of three ●). Then 1 = ●, 2 = ●●, 3 = ▲, 4 = ▲●, 5 = ▲●●, 6 = ▲▲, 7 = ▲▲●, and so on.

Students can make their own symbols. Any system with a fixed order is correct.

3.2 Some Early Number Systems

4Up to what group size could you immediately see the number of objects without counting?

Most of us can see up to 4 objects at a glance. For 5 or more objects we have to count.

5What could be the difficulties with using a number system that counts only in groups of a single size? How would you represent 1345 in a system that counts only by 5s?

For big numbers we get too many groups. Then we have to count the groups also, which is slow and confusing.

1345 = 269 groups of 5 (since 269 × 5 = 1345). So we must write the symbol for 5 as many as 269 times.

Figure it Out (Page 59) — Roman Numerals

1Represent the following numbers in the Roman system: (i) 1222 (ii) 2999 (iii) 302 (iv) 715

(i) 1222 = 1000 + 100 + 100 + 10 + 10 + 1 + 1 = MCCXXII

(ii) 2999 = 1000 + 1000 + 900 + 90 + 9 = MMCMXCIX

(iii) 302 = 100 + 100 + 100 + 1 + 1 = CCCII

(iv) 715 = 500 + 100 + 100 + 10 + 5 = DCCXV

6Add without converting to Hindu numerals: (a) CCXXXII + CCCCXIII (b) LXXXVII + LXXVIII

(a) Together we have 6 Cs, 4 Xs and 5 Is. 5 Is make a V. 5 Cs make a D.

So the sum = D C XXXX V = DCXLV (that is 645).

(b) Together we have 2 Ls, 5 Xs, 2 Vs and 5 Is. 5 Is make a V, so we get 3 Vs. 2 Vs make an X, so we get 6 Xs and 1 V. 5 Xs make an L, so we get 3 Ls and 1 X. 2 Ls make a C.

So the sum = C L X V = CLXV (that is 165).

7Find the products: V × L, L × D, V × D, VII × IX. Multiply CCXXXI and MDCCCLII.

V × L = 5 groups of L = LLLLL = CCL

L × D = 50 groups of D = 25000 = MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (25 Ms)

V × D = 5 groups of D = DDDDD = MMD

VII × IX = (V + I + I) × IX = XLV + IX + IX = LXIII (63)

CCXXXI × MDCCCLII = 231 × 1852 = 4,27,812. In Roman numerals this needs 427 Ms followed by DCCCXII.

This shows why multiplication is very hard in the Roman system. There is no simple rule like in a base system.

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Figure it Out (Page 60)

1A group of indigenous people in a Pacific island use different sequences of number names to count different objects. Why do you think they do this?

They may count different things in different groups. For example, fish may be counted in pairs and coconuts in bunches.

They have not yet separated the idea of number from the objects being counted.

2Extend the Gumulgal system by counting in 2s and evaluate:

Here urapon = 1 and ukasar = 2.

(i) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon) + (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon)

Join both: 7 ukasars and 2 urapons. Two urapons make one ukasar.

Answer: ukasar written 8 times (that is 16).

(ii) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon) − (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar)

Remove 3 ukasars from 4 ukasars.

Answer: ukasar-urapon (that is 3).

(iii) (ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-ukasar-urapon) × (ukasar-ukasar)

Write the first number 4 times (ukasar-ukasar means 4). We get 16 ukasars and 4 urapons. 4 urapons make 2 ukasars.

Answer: ukasar written 18 times (that is 36).

(iv) (ukasar written 8 times) ÷ (ukasar-ukasar)

Make groups of ukasar-ukasar. We get 4 groups.

Answer: ukasar-ukasar (that is 4).

3Identify the features of the Hindu number system that make it efficient compared to the Roman system.
  • It uses only ten symbols (0 to 9) to write any number.
  • It is a place value system with base 10.
  • It has a symbol for zero.
  • Addition, subtraction, multiplication and division are easy.
4Using the ideas discussed, try refining the number system you made earlier.

Sample: In the ●, ▲ system, add a new symbol ■ for 3 × 3 = 9, and ★ for 9 × 3 = 27. Then 40 = ★ ■ ▲ ● (27 + 9 + 3 + 1).

3.3 The Idea of a Base

8Egyptian symbols used in the answers below.
1stroke ( | )
10heel bone ( ∩ )
100coiled rope
1000lotus
10,000finger
1,00,000tadpole
10,00,000astonished man

Figure it Out (Page 62) — Egyptian System

1Represent the following numbers in the Egyptian system: 10458, 1023, 2660, 784, 1111, 70707.

10458 = 1 finger, 4 coiled ropes, 5 heel bones, 8 strokes

1023 = 1 lotus, 2 heel bones, 3 strokes

2660 = 2 lotuses, 6 coiled ropes, 6 heel bones

784 = 7 coiled ropes, 8 heel bones, 4 strokes

1111 = 1 lotus, 1 coiled rope, 1 heel bone, 1 stroke

70707 = 7 fingers, 7 coiled ropes, 7 strokes

2What numbers do these numerals stand for?

(i) 2 coiled ropes, 7 heel bones and 6 strokes = 200 + 70 + 6 = 276

(ii) 4 lotuses, 3 coiled ropes, 2 heel bones and 2 strokes = 4000 + 300 + 20 + 2 = 4322

9Express the number 143 in the base-5 system. (Symbols: △ = 1, □ = 5, ⬡ = 25, ○ = 125, ∼ = 625, ↑ = 3125)

143 = 125 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 = ○ □□□ △△△

Figure it Out (Page 63) — Base-5 System

1Write the following numbers in the base-5 system: 15, 50, 137, 293, 651.

15 = 5 + 5 + 5 = □□□

50 = 25 + 25 = ⬡⬡

137 = 125 + 5 + 5 + 1 + 1 = ○ □□ △△

293 = 125 + 125 + 25 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 = ○○ ⬡ □□□ △△△

651 = 625 + 25 + 1 = ∼ ⬡ △

2Is there a number that cannot be represented in our base-5 system? Why or why not?

Every counting number can be represented. We group it into powers of 5, and no symbol is needed more than 4 times.

But zero (0) cannot be represented because there is no symbol for it.

3Compute the landmark numbers of a base-7 system. In general, what are the landmark numbers of a base-n system?

Base-7: 70 = 1, 71 = 7, 72 = 49, 73 = 343, 74 = 2401, …

Base-n: 1, n, n2, n3, n4, … (powers of n).

Figure it Out (Page 65) — Addition

1Add the following Egyptian numerals.

(i) (9 lotuses, 6 coiled ropes, 8 strokes) + (5 coiled ropes, 7 strokes)

Strokes: 8 + 7 = 15 = 1 heel bone + 5 strokes.

Coiled ropes: 6 + 5 = 11 = 1 lotus + 1 coiled rope.

Lotuses: 9 + 1 = 10 = 1 finger.

Sum = 1 finger, 1 coiled rope, 1 heel bone, 5 strokes = 10,115

(ii) (1 lotus, 8 heel bones) + (4 heel bones, 6 strokes)

Heel bones: 8 + 4 = 12 = 1 coiled rope + 2 heel bones.

Sum = 1 lotus, 1 coiled rope, 2 heel bones, 6 strokes = 1126

2Add these base-5 numerals: (○ ⬡⬡ □ △△) + (○○○ ⬡ □□ △△)

Circles: 1 + 3 = 4. Hexagons: 2 + 1 = 3. Squares: 1 + 2 = 3. Triangles: 2 + 2 = 4.

No symbol reaches 5, so no regrouping is needed.

Sum = ○○○○ ⬡⬡⬡ □□□ △△△△ (182 + 412 = 594)

Multiplication in a Base System

10What is any landmark number multiplied by ∩ (10)? Find: (i) ∩ × ∩ (ii) coiled rope × ∩ (iii) lotus × ∩ (iv) finger × ∩

Multiplying by 10 gives the next landmark number.

(i) coiled rope (100) (ii) lotus (1000) (iii) finger (10,000) (iv) tadpole (1,00,000)

11What is any landmark number multiplied by a coiled rope (102)? Find: (i) ∩ × coiled rope (ii) coiled rope × coiled rope (iii) lotus × coiled rope (iv) finger × coiled rope

Multiplying by 100 moves two landmark numbers ahead.

(i) lotus (103) (ii) finger (104) (iii) tadpole (105) (iv) astonished man (106)

12Find the products: (i) ∩ × tadpole (ii) coiled rope × lotus (iii) lotus × lotus (iv) finger × astonished man

(i) 10 × 105 = 106 = astonished man

(ii) 102 × 103 = 105 = tadpole

(iii) 103 × 103 = 106 = astonished man

(iv) 104 × 106 = 1010. The Egyptians had no symbol for this.

13Does this property hold true in the base-5 system? Does it hold for any number system with a base?

Yes. In base 5, □ × □ = 5 × 5 = 25 = ⬡, and ⬡ × □ = 125 = ○.

Yes. In any base-n system, the landmark numbers are powers of n, and na × nb = na + b, which is again a landmark number.

14Now find the products: (i) (5 coiled ropes, 2 heel bones, 2 strokes) × ∩ (ii) (1 lotus, 1 heel bone) × ∩

Multiply each symbol by 10, that is, change it to the next landmark symbol.

(i) 5 lotuses, 2 coiled ropes, 2 heel bones (522 × 10 = 5220)

(ii) 1 finger, 1 coiled rope (1010 × 10 = 10,100)

15What would be a simple rule to multiply a number with ∩ (10)?

Replace every symbol by the symbol of the next landmark number. A stroke becomes a heel bone, a heel bone becomes a coiled rope, and so on.

16On the abacus, how would you find 2907 + 43? What is to be done if the total in a line exceeds 10?

Bring the counters on each line together. Ones: 7 + 3 = 10. Remove these 10 counters and put 1 counter on the tens line.

Tens: 4 + 1 = 5. Hundreds: 9. Thousands: 2.

So the sum = 2950. Whenever a line gets 10 counters, we replace them by 1 counter on the next line.

Figure it Out (Page 69)

1Can there be a number whose representation in Egyptian numerals has one of the symbols occurring 10 or more times? Why not?

No. 10 copies of any symbol are always replaced by one symbol of the next landmark number. So a symbol appears at most 9 times.

2Create your own number system of base 4, and represent numbers from 1 to 16.

Let ● = 1, ▲ = 4, ■ = 16.

1 = ● 5 = ▲● 9 = ▲▲● 13 = ▲▲▲● 2 = ●● 6 = ▲●● 10 = ▲▲●● 14 = ▲▲▲●● 3 = ●●● 7 = ▲●●● 11 = ▲▲●●● 15 = ▲▲▲●●● 4 = ▲ 8 = ▲▲ 12 = ▲▲▲ 16 = ■
3Give a simple rule to multiply a given number by 5 in the base-5 system.

Replace every symbol by the next landmark symbol: △ → □, □ → ⬡, ⬡ → ○, ○ → ∼, ∼ → ↑.

For example, ○ □□ △ (136) × 5 = ∼ ⬡⬡ □ (680).

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3.4 Place Value Representation

17Represent the following numbers in the Mesopotamian system: (i) 63 (ii) 132 (iii) 200 (iv) 60 (v) 3605

Here ▼ stands for 1 and ◀ stands for 10. Places (from right) show 1s, 60s and 3600s.

(i) 63 = (1) × 60 + 3 → ▼   ▼▼▼

(ii) 132 = (2) × 60 + 12 → ▼▼   ◀▼▼

(iii) 200 = (3) × 60 + 20 → ▼▼▼   ◀◀

(iv) 60 = (1) × 60 + 0 → ▼   (blank)

(v) 3605 = (1) × 3600 + (0) × 60 + 5 → ▼   (blank)   ▼▼▼▼▼

18Look at the representation of 60. What will be the representation for 3600?

3600 = (1) × 602. It is written as a single ▼ followed by two blank places.

So it looks just like 1 and 60. This creates confusion.

19Represent the following numbers using the Mayan system: (i) 77 (ii) 100 (iii) 361 (iv) 721

Dot = 1, bar = 5, shell = 0. Landmark numbers from bottom: 1, 20, 360.

(i) 77 = (3) × 20 + 17

(ii) 100 = (5) × 20 + 0

(iii) 361 = (1) × 360 + (0) × 20 + 1

(iv) 721 = (2) × 360 + (0) × 20 + 1

20Where does the Hindu number system figure in the evolution of number representation? What are its landmark numbers? Does it use a place value system?

It is the final and most developed stage. It is a base-10 system with the digit 0.

Its landmark numbers are 1, 10, 102, 103, … (powers of 10).

Yes, it is a place value system. The position of a digit tells its landmark number.

Figure it Out (Page 80)

1Why did the Chinese alternate between Zong and Heng symbols? If only Zong symbols were used, how would 41 be represented? Could it be read in another way?

They alternated so that two neighbouring places can be told apart easily.

With only Zongs, 41 would be |||| | (four rods and one rod).

If there is no clear space, these five rods can also be read as 5, 14, 23, 32, 113, 122, 311 and so on.

2Form a base-2 place value system using ‘ukasar’ and ‘urapon’ as the digits. Compare it with the Gumulgal system.

Let urapon (ur) = 0 and ukasar (uk) = 1. Places from right are 1, 2, 4, 8, …

NumberBase-2 (place value)Gumulgal
1ukurapon
2uk urukasar
3uk ukukasar-urapon
4uk ur urukasar-ukasar
5uk ur ukukasar-ukasar-urapon
6uk uk urukasar-ukasar-ukasar
7uk uk ukras
8uk ur ur urras

The base-2 system can write every number. The Gumulgal system has names only up to 6. It needs longer names as numbers grow.

3Where in daily life and in which professions do Hindu numerals and 0 play an important role? How might our lives have been different without them?

They are used in shopping, banking, phone numbers, dates, time, measurement, computers, science and engineering. Shopkeepers, accountants, engineers, doctors and scientists use them every day.

Without them, writing and calculating big numbers would be very slow and confusing. Computers and modern technology would be very hard to build.

4What would Hindu numerals look like in base 8 or base 5? Write 25 in base 8, base 5 and base 2.

In base 8 we would use only the digits 0 to 7. In base 5 we would use only 0 to 4.

Base 8: 25 = (3) × 8 + 1 → 31

Base 5: 25 = (1) × 25 + (0) × 5 + 0 → 100

Base 2: 25 = 16 + 8 + 1 = (1)×16 + (1)×8 + (0)×4 + (0)×2 + 1 → 11001